{"id":24482,"date":"2012-09-17T11:34:46","date_gmt":"2012-09-17T18:34:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/9n2.ac0.myftpupload.com\/1313\/?p=4340"},"modified":"2012-09-17T11:34:46","modified_gmt":"2012-09-17T18:34:46","slug":"undo-that-beat-detective-or-ill-punch-you-in-the-face","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/?p=24482","title":{"rendered":"Undo that beat detective or I&#8217;ll kill you in the face!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>(Rant warning)<\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So lets say some drummer is hired to lay down live tracks for a head bobbing\/swing flowing\/trip hopesk project. Tracks get sent off &amp; everyone loves the vibe. A month or two later the songwriter isn&#8217;t pleased. She asks why do the tracks sound so different after &#8220;joe the mixer&#8221; got his hands on them? I listen to the rough mixes for about 30 sec &amp; say, &#8220;well he quantized the F#$% out of them. Killed all the swing\/flow&#8221;. All drum &amp; bass parts had been\u00a0quantized &amp; locked to a straight grid. Turned a swing feel into a rock track.<\/p>\n<p>Moral of the story, <strong>Stop using Beat detective, Audio Snap, Audio Quantize, etc by default! <\/strong>The human swing &amp; timing deviations are what help translate musical expression. Leave it be. When should you correct timing? When timing is a problem, that&#8217;s it.<\/p>\n<p>This holds true with sequenced music as well. Loops can contain all the same little imperfections that keep music interesting. You can end up with some pretty lifeless content without the contrast between locked sequences &amp; human feel. live interaction along with programmed elements is a perfect match IMHO.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"4348\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/?attachment_id=4348\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png\" data-orig-size=\"842,283\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Capture\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-4348\" title=\"Capture\" src=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"521\" height=\"175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png 842w, https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture-150x50.png 150w, https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture-640x215.png 640w, https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture-768x258.png 768w, https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture-308x104.png 308w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 521px) 100vw, 521px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As an example I hit the REC button &amp; tracked two loose grooves with some imperfections pretty far off the grid. I then ran them thru an extreme rough &amp; dirty uncleaned Beat Detective pass. You can hear how the bounce is stripped &amp; creates a lifeless groove.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-One.wav\">Loose Groove One.wav<\/a><br \/>\n<div class=\"wavesurfer-block wavesurfer-audio\"><div class=\"wavesurfer-player\" data-wave-color=\"#000000\" data-cursor-color=\"#dddddd\" data-progress-color=\"#ededed\" data-height=\"127\" data-url=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-One.wav\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-progress\"><progress class=\"wavesurfer-loading\" value=\"0\" max=\"100\"><\/progress><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-buttons_set\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-play\"><span>Play<\/span><\/button><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-stop\"><span>Stop<\/span><\/button><div class=\"wavesurfer-time\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-duration\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-One-Over-Quantized.wav\">Loose Groove One Over Quantized.wav<\/a><br \/>\n<div class=\"wavesurfer-block wavesurfer-audio\"><div class=\"wavesurfer-player\" data-wave-color=\"#000000\" data-cursor-color=\"#dddddd\" data-progress-color=\"#ededed\" data-height=\"127\" data-url=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-One-Over-Quantized.wav\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-progress\"><progress class=\"wavesurfer-loading\" value=\"0\" max=\"100\"><\/progress><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-buttons_set\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-play\"><span>Play<\/span><\/button><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-stop\"><span>Stop<\/span><\/button><div class=\"wavesurfer-time\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-duration\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-Two.wav\">Loose Groove Two.wav<\/a><br \/>\n<div class=\"wavesurfer-block wavesurfer-audio\"><div class=\"wavesurfer-player\" data-wave-color=\"#000000\" data-cursor-color=\"#dddddd\" data-progress-color=\"#ededed\" data-height=\"127\" data-url=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-Two.wav\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-progress\"><progress class=\"wavesurfer-loading\" value=\"0\" max=\"100\"><\/progress><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-buttons_set\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-play\"><span>Play<\/span><\/button><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-stop\"><span>Stop<\/span><\/button><div class=\"wavesurfer-time\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-duration\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-Two-Over-Quantized.wav\">Loose Groove Two Over Quantized.wav<\/a><br \/>\n<div class=\"wavesurfer-block wavesurfer-audio\"><div class=\"wavesurfer-player\" data-wave-color=\"#000000\" data-cursor-color=\"#dddddd\" data-progress-color=\"#ededed\" data-height=\"127\" data-url=\"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Loose-Groove-Two-Over-Quantized.wav\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-progress\"><progress class=\"wavesurfer-loading\" value=\"0\" max=\"100\"><\/progress><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-buttons_set\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-play\"><span>Play<\/span><\/button><button type=\"button\" class=\"wavesurfer-stop\"><span>Stop<\/span><\/button><div class=\"wavesurfer-time\"><\/div><div class=\"wavesurfer-duration\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Rant warning)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4348,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[313,254,316,314],"class_list":["post-24482","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ticks-tips-tricks","tag-beat-detective","tag-drums","tag-live-playing","tag-quantize","excerpt","zoom","full-without-featured","even","excerpt-0"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Capture.png","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":24442,"url":"https:\/\/ericbeam.com\/?p=24442","url_meta":{"origin":24482,"position":0},"title":"MPC3000 vs Pro Tools","author":"Eric","date":"March 24, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"I decided to run a quick comparison between programming a 2 bar drum loop via the Akai MPC 3000 & doing the same via Protools\/midi track & a software sampler. 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